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Shoshana's avatar

Maybe this needs to be done now not just by US citizens

If ICE is using third party contractors, then US citizens detained should sue the he’ll out of them. Go after their individual assets.

First, There might be some truth to this, 3rd party contractors, simply because ICE couldn’t staff up quickly to meet the surge of arrests in response to their 3,000 a day goal with only having two academies that teach 13 week training classes as part of the new hire process.

Second, if these are not federal employees, ICE owes all of us an explanation. I can’t believe no one from the feckless Congress has challenged them on this.

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John Perkins's avatar

13 weeks of training to carry guns and batons - guess fascism is easily learned by some

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Adam Someone's avatar

The thing about it is there only speaking and training the simplest, logic less and basic of all emotions

You just need to be rilled up for 13 weeks - though nothing is learned - in fact there is active discouragement of Thinking and Learning

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Nathalie Suteau's avatar

That’s why all the ICE agents I have seen over the past 2/3 weeks have no uniforms and personal cars?

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Adam Someone's avatar

Yes so that can say there on personal time or contractors - BUT this Actively Looses their ‘Qualified Immunity’

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Adam Someone's avatar

“The guy” is fruit loops he should of never of been elected (By the Electoral College) or should of been removed already due to mental incompetency-his dementia is getting much worse by the day

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Adam Someone's avatar

I’ve tossed around in My mind what should happen if California exercised their Constitutional Right to Secession since it would bankrupt the USA faster then it’s currently happening!!! (Which is happening at light speed anyway - it’s the 6th largest economy in the World *ON ITS OWN*

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Paul Hertz's avatar

It’s now. 4th largest economy in world!

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Maureen Spitz's avatar

Yes - we even outrank Japan. Good luck, MAGA goons and clown car enforcers - what if we just don't pay our taxes due to your venality, treason, and stupidity? Then we guess you're SOL.

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Adam Someone's avatar

Then they will *try* and bankrupt California-But I doubt it will work - Bankruptcy for California, if the Feds have the power, is bankruptcy for the Federal Government. It’s one of the few States making money (still)

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Adam Someone's avatar

Honestly California, not the federal government should represent the United States in the G7 and trade meetings - or be added as a special member in addition to the ‘Crazy orange spider money’ that is “In Charge of making the desicisions” it’s horrible. “He” cannot decide which shoe to be tied first by *somebody* He is definitely not capable of tying ‘his’ own shoes anymore let alone deciding if the right shoe or left shoe should be tied for him first - so ‘his’ shoe person would choose which shoe, tell him that it was his great decision to have that shoe tied for him, the right shoe first, just to have him say “Yes, My shoe decision will help eliminate the terrorists on the Moon firing lasers at Me and sometimes other people - because that’s how passing from old age works, the ugh erm, the space lasers. My decision having to have ID to leave the house, or buy food helped allot too with the space lasers fighting back if anybody forgets ahhhhhhhh geeeeeeee I remember, they’re UM ERM ID Yes their ID!”

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Adam Someone's avatar

The issue is they can’t occupy California as Feds - they would need to make huge promises to pretty much every State - and that still doesn’t guarantee they’ll pull the trigger on they’re fellow countrymen or be hung for ‘just following orders’ so it’s very dark territory ahead - Sadly but on the other side I hope We come out Better & Stronger !!

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Adam Someone's avatar

The problem is that there is no way out of this without Federal Bankruptcy

Getting out of it without being occupied by most of Western Europe, The Saudis and a good part of Asia is going to be “very tough” especially with only sellouts on both sides as politicians

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meryl selig's avatar

4th largest economy

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Adam Someone's avatar

Sorry My Mistake - The Enron Era Numbers still stick in My head. As a Congressman said “Your (Enron) playing fast and loose with the Worlds 1/6 largest Economy”

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Adam Someone's avatar

(Please read the whole thing the background I explain may *seem* unrelated)

Oops, Sorry that’s a number that’s stuck in My head from when Enron was doing hundreds of billions of damage - so they could profit from tens of billions that kept their Ponzi scheme going a little longer - it would of never of ballooned so badly if the SEC where not pressured into going them market to market (or day market I forget) accounting

It allows You to to make a contract that theoretically will make money in five years but claim it as profit the second a so called ‘money making business’ that will be transacted years - So of course allot of contracts for knowingly charting up profits on contracts that could never break even or not even have the slightest chance of being thought or starting let alone completion and generating revenue

I’m sure “he” was watering at the mouth, as it seems, He started doing the same Ponzi schemes now with the USA, friends, crypto and “his own real estate” so called business’s and is arguably a hundred fold worse because A:) Real Estate normally has an incorporated business for each ‘project’ and normally has such a long time to fruition

B:) “he” profits, as well as family and ‘friends, almost immediately pocketing, not profiting, billions but “he” knows that he will be out of office by force or naturally expire. When the other countries and investment/investment funds come looking for their, combined, many of trillions of dollars back it will be the tax payers and US Citizens that will end up picking up the tab in what looks like is already in the tens of trillion’s just so “he” could pocket less then %.1

*It would be MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE* to pay him the billions directly as long as he stays in his room trying to find a magic “deal”/strategy to “Win always BIG with more tic tac toe, always win the most better then everyone or the Me, always and better then everyone else too!! always best tictactoe score better then mortals Me great the greatest” (until his handles get control over the mentality disabled psychopathic man-child, likely by offering more free orange paste)

“His” big poker style ‘tell’ of gross deception, or any mild deception even, has always been repeating himself *MANY* times to the point of mindless babbling

In fact that ‘tell’ alone would key investigative reports to things they would look at, but at best We only have a dozen reporters left that actually do *at least some* fact checking the rest of the ‘reporters’ are talking heads pushing the, Republican, Owners instructions & interests

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Adam Someone's avatar

Just the idea of a ‘goal per day’ of arrests is disgraceful, disgusting and illegal

The Founding Fathers thought being ‘undocumented’ was a minor voting issue - if even that Ellis Island BUILT AMERICA

And NON OF US have documentation from Native Americans!!!

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Adam Someone's avatar

If We start standing up to these Thieves, Muts, Psychopaths and trust fund kids and killers - *Oh* the ‘good families with tons of family money’ that support %200 and fund %.1 of the costs of their proxy wars to keep they’re slavery/indentured workers making the families money while almost every family is sitting on their hands, in the last twenty years both sitting on their hands and in terrifying fear that the people will take power and clawback allot of their ill gotten gains

Their actually fairly busy building opulent private bunkers so they can ride out the hell on earth they’ve created - and that’s terrifying before they always had *at least some ‘skin in the game’* but now their actively creating large bunkers to live their delusions out after it becomes impossible to live above the surface - it actually suites them because only the rich occluded idiots will have a good chance of not being touched in the hell that’s coming *IF WE DONT TAKE OUR POWER BACK INTO OUR OWN HANDS* and do it responsibly for Human, wildlife and Earth it’s too important to mess up !!…..

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Adam Someone's avatar

I’m not racist at all - but the Civil War was *NOT* about slaves

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Adam Someone's avatar

BTW - I stand up for everyone often at My Own risk of Peril

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