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David Jolly once served in Congress as a Republican. He refused to get behind Donald Trump, spent years as an independent, and is now running for Florida governor as a Democrat.
We sat down with him to ask how that happened—and whether the coalition he’s trying to build can change Florida’s direction.
One line from the conversation stood out: “I have no regrets.”
Did Trump change the GOP—or expose it?
We asked Jolly whether Trump transformed Republican voters or simply revealed what they already wanted. His answer challenges the familiar story that Trump hijacked a party that never saw him coming.
Jolly argues that the party was ready to embrace him. He also takes us back to the pressure Republicans faced in 2016, the incentives to fall in line, and why he chose a different path.
That history matters to his pitch today: he says he wants to grow the Democratic coalition by speaking to people who feel politically homeless.
The debate he won’t do
We also pressed him on his decision not to debate Byron Donalds. Voters deserve to hear candidates explain themselves, and we wanted his reasoning in his own words.
Jolly says he wrestled with the decision. He argues that the proposed debates would reward more hostility and culture-war fights, while he wants to keep the campaign focused on housing, health care, schools, food and gas.
You can agree or disagree with that calculation. Watch his full answer and decide whether it holds up.
What happens beyond the Trump arguments?
The conversation also gets into what governing Florida would actually mean. We discuss teachers and classroom technology, his opposition to new hyperscale data centers, and how he thinks the country should approach AI.
We pushed him on the tension there: if states say no to data centers, where does the technology grow? His answer connects national security, local control, jobs, privacy, and the concerns he hears from families.
A blunt answer for Democrats, too
Near the end, we asked what Democrats often get wrong. Jolly warns against assuming that a community’s race, language, or national origin tells you the only issues its voters care about.
His answer brings the conversation back to housing, health care, and education—and he says both parties can make that mistake.
There’s also a rapid-fire round on Trump, Ron DeSantis, Marco Rubio, MAGA, and more. Then we close with what worries him most about American politics after Trump.
Watch the full interview on YouTube. Which answer stood out to you—and could Jolly’s approach change Florida? Tell us in the comments.
—Brian & Ed
To answer the questi9n of whether Trump changed or exposed the GOP we have to go back in time. People who saw what was coming and sounded the alarm as early as the 1970's include an interesting trio; Barry Goldwater, Larry Flynt, and Billy Graham. They do say that politics makes strange bedfellows! The descent into this helluva mess began ,at least publicly, when a good, in my opion godly, soft spoken, and yes ineffective Jimmy Carter got played and overshadowed by the larger than life Christian Nationalist prototype, Ronald Reagan. He was already well known and connected and in that defining moment he stepped int9 his greatest and most award winning role....President of the USA Aand idolized leader of the free world. The policies of that administration were insidious. We were blinded by the star of the show to what was really going on. The campaign finance act, Citizens United, etc paved the way for project 2025and Regan a real star of siver screen smoothed the way for the spray tan slime from reality TV. Im doing this offline and don't have access to my stash of historical articles, clippings, etc so tis comment is off the to0 of my head. I'd really love to put this together and flesh it out foe an op/ed piece. Maybe someone would read it!